Griz shoot like blind kids, lose to Weber 76-67
Big game on the road. Griz looking to rebound from a tough loss. Need to move up in the standings. Guess what happened. Yep, they played terrible.
Well, the Griz made it drought (opposite of make it rain?) at the Dee Center tonight. The Griz shot 32 percent for the game, 20 percent in the first half. The Grizzlies shot 30 3-pointers tonight, they made five. Well done. One Matthew Martin led the way, shooting 1-10 from outside the painted arc and 3-13 overall. Fraught naught Gar and Sanchez, I have your Jordan Hasquet numbers: 2-8 from outside and 2-11 overall. 13 points, 0 rebounds. Interesting stat: CET led the scoring with 14.
The Griz trailed by 15+ the entire game and the final score was closer than it should've been. Anyone who takes solace in the fact that we made a run in garbage time is pathetic. I'd rather be a somewhat talented inconsistent team who plays crappy half the time and gets blown out by 10-15 than be the type of team that feels a certain pride when they say "hey, at least we made a run at the end" and still loses by 9.
The Griz need to win out to finish above .500 in conference and overall. Amazing. Who the hell let this happen? I mean you can blame coaches all you want but even if you have a knucklehead coach (I am not saying we do) a player has to step up and lead the guys. Even if your coach is an amazing leader of men, you still need a player to lead. Where has that been?
Seniors, I'm looking at you. Sure, do all you can with the minutes provided but sometimes that's not enough. I mean if I'm a senior, or pretty much anyone in the rotation, I'm legitimately furious as soon as things start dipping south. I start blowing people up and melting faces. Does anyone remember any player being seriously fired up at all this season?
Ohhhh, they have the flu. You know what, I shouldn't know that. This game came with built-in excuses. Players can't have that back-door. The Missoulian's preview article for this game was titled "Ailing Griz look to get back into groove." The lead quote is Tinkle saying people are sick. Why? He doesn't name names, but if you're stubborn enough not to name names, why not just not bring it up?
You know what you do... show them this, tell them to nut up because it's the stretch run then say that when they have a phenomenal game you'd not only say they had the flu but had been randomly experiencing paralysis on the right side of their body. On top of that, they did it for testicular cancer awareness. Hero.
At this point, anything short of making a run into the NCAA Tournament will be a gigantic disappointment. Even if they make the championship game. Because let's be honest, that championship game should've been played in Dahlberg OR after only one playoff game. You put yourself at the bottom of this hill, now climb it.
Well, the Griz made it drought (opposite of make it rain?) at the Dee Center tonight. The Griz shot 32 percent for the game, 20 percent in the first half. The Grizzlies shot 30 3-pointers tonight, they made five. Well done. One Matthew Martin led the way, shooting 1-10 from outside the painted arc and 3-13 overall. Fraught naught Gar and Sanchez, I have your Jordan Hasquet numbers: 2-8 from outside and 2-11 overall. 13 points, 0 rebounds. Interesting stat: CET led the scoring with 14.
The Griz trailed by 15+ the entire game and the final score was closer than it should've been. Anyone who takes solace in the fact that we made a run in garbage time is pathetic. I'd rather be a somewhat talented inconsistent team who plays crappy half the time and gets blown out by 10-15 than be the type of team that feels a certain pride when they say "hey, at least we made a run at the end" and still loses by 9.
The Griz need to win out to finish above .500 in conference and overall. Amazing. Who the hell let this happen? I mean you can blame coaches all you want but even if you have a knucklehead coach (I am not saying we do) a player has to step up and lead the guys. Even if your coach is an amazing leader of men, you still need a player to lead. Where has that been?
Seniors, I'm looking at you. Sure, do all you can with the minutes provided but sometimes that's not enough. I mean if I'm a senior, or pretty much anyone in the rotation, I'm legitimately furious as soon as things start dipping south. I start blowing people up and melting faces. Does anyone remember any player being seriously fired up at all this season?
Ohhhh, they have the flu. You know what, I shouldn't know that. This game came with built-in excuses. Players can't have that back-door. The Missoulian's preview article for this game was titled "Ailing Griz look to get back into groove." The lead quote is Tinkle saying people are sick. Why? He doesn't name names, but if you're stubborn enough not to name names, why not just not bring it up?
You know what you do... show them this, tell them to nut up because it's the stretch run then say that when they have a phenomenal game you'd not only say they had the flu but had been randomly experiencing paralysis on the right side of their body. On top of that, they did it for testicular cancer awareness. Hero.
At this point, anything short of making a run into the NCAA Tournament will be a gigantic disappointment. Even if they make the championship game. Because let's be honest, that championship game should've been played in Dahlberg OR after only one playoff game. You put yourself at the bottom of this hill, now climb it.
its getting really hard to be a fan I graduated last semester and try my best to support em I vest my hopes solely on Griz football its a shame how hard we suck every first half. Wats the reason for such lackluster starts
Don't go to the dark side and only support football. We don't need any more of that type than there already is.
On the first-half stuff... obviously, someone isn't motivating the players properly. This falls on both the players on the coaches. Before anyone says 'TINKS SUCKS, LK WAS SO MUCH BETTER!,' Krystkowiak's teams used to do exactly the same thing.
great article took the words out of my mouth...and rai please don't rant and rave about griz football i've said this numerous times if the griz played in a REAL division of football they'd be a way worse team than our basketball team...our bball team blew out colorado state our football would get their asses handed 2 them by Colorado State...People in Montana live in a fantasy world when it comes 2 football what are u proving when u beat crappy teams for a meaningless national championship its not a national championship unless u play the best so until we beat LSU we don't have championship football at the U...so support our basketball team and respect the fact that they play much better opposition in the nonconference
TONIGHT'S WEBER State game
Rebounds BETTER @ 35 total
Free Throw % BETTER @ 78%
As for field goal percentage, Drew was the only one who could have made a shot with golf ball into a swimming pool from 5 feet.
WITHOUT Drew's 60%
The team Field goal % SUCKED @ 28%
Player Field goal %
Strait -60%
Sharp -40%
Taylor-40%
Spurget-33%
Stauds -33%
Vander -25%
Martin -23%
Hasquet-18%
Rundles- 0%
WOW !!!!
No wins coming soon with those kind of numbers.
i believe if this team would get a new coach tomorrow they'd win out but since tinks is here for another year and a half they will have a tough time. next year should be great and he'll have a chance to try to get his boys on board so if that happens they'll win but if they don't believe in him it will be another year like this one.
Colin,
You are right about Martin's shooting tonight. The only ones who shot worse were Hasquet and Rundles.
Actually, the only one who shot good was Strait, but it is about 18 feet closer where he shoots from.
I was unable to listen to the game tonight, but the stats make it look like it wasn't my kind of game anyway. Didn't look like much teamwork was happening. The Griz attempted 67 shots this game, highest this season. They made 22. Of the 45 misses, 25 were 3 pointers and the play-by-play show 11 misses were layups. Yes, 11 missed layups.
Equally as interesting is the fact that the Griz had the lowest assist total of the season. I realize you have to be hitting to get assists, but it just doesn't seem a coincidence to me that only 8 assists in 67 attempts produces a poor shooting percentage. Was there any teamwork happening tonight? That's how we've been winning. Balance. Teamwork. I may have a chance to listen to the archived game this weekend, but I'm guessing it will show there wasn't much of anyone helping each other out.
Does it seem like coincidence that the most attempts and the fewest assists just might yield close to the lowest shooting percentage of the year? (actually they shot slightly lower against Gonzaga and CalStateFulerton ... we know how those went.)
Did the teamwork just totally break down? Were guys yanking up bad shots? Was everyone just having a bad shooting night on the same night?
Just from the stats, it looks like a total team breakdown from the balanced, united effort they've been putting in recently.
How disappointing!
Poor thread title...poor game. Jordan H is next year's likely starter at power forward and he does know how to rebound. What happened last night? I don't think this team wins out simply with another coach.
i used this thread title to say that the problem is between coach and players, and a new coach tomorrow would be a big boost. this team will struggle as long as the players are'nt on the coaches page. this coach blames everything on them and they don't have confidence in him.
All you can really go by is results.
Based on the results:
Tinks DOES INDEED suck, and LK, DEFINITELY, WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, WAS
AND IS MUCH BETTER.
devin ur views on Griz football seems a bit miss directed. You seem to be discounting every other division other than Div-A, and thats absurd. To compare the griz to LSU and that we have to compete with that level to get recognition is crazy. Griz football is big in montana cos frankly there is not much to do, and communities need something to rally around, a sense of togetherness which comes about when its football season. So to discount a whole state's affection towards a collegiate program is not appropriate. That is why we saw 90,000 plus people show up for Alabama's first scrimmage game I do think that the griz football can more than just compete with some teams belonging to the WAC, MOuntain West and ACC whipping boys duke unc Nc State. AS far as ur Colorado St comment goes that team had only a few practices before playing that game , the squad was completely new and a new coach, so to expect them to compete and let alone win in front of 6000 plus home fans is unrealistic . So that comparison falls a bit short.
devin ur views on Griz football seems a bit miss directed. You seem to be discounting every other division other than Div-A, and thats absurd. To compare the griz to LSU and that we have to compete with that level to get recognition is crazy. Griz football is big in montana cos frankly there is not much to do, and communities need something to rally around, a sense of togetherness which comes about when its football season. So to discount a whole state's affection towards a collegiate program is not appropriate. That is why we saw 90,000 plus people show up for Alabama's first scrimmage game I do think that the griz football can more than just compete with some teams belonging to the WAC, MOuntain West and ACC whipping boys duke unc Nc State. AS far as ur Colorado St comment goes that team had only a few practices before playing that game , the squad was completely new and a new coach, so to expect them to compete and let alone win in front of 6000 plus home fans is unrealistic . So that comparison falls a bit short.
devin ur views on Griz football seems a bit miss directed. You seem to be discounting every other division other than Div-A, and thats absurd. To compare the griz to LSU and that we have to compete with that level to get recognition is crazy. Griz football is big in montana cos frankly there is not much to do, and communities need something to rally around, a sense of togetherness which comes about when its football season. So to discount a whole state's affection towards a collegiate program is not appropriate. That is why we saw 90,000 plus people show up for Alabama's first scrimmage game I do think that the griz football can more than just compete with some teams belonging to the WAC, MOuntain West and ACC whipping boys duke unc Nc State. AS far as ur Colorado St comment goes that team had only a few practices before playing that game , the squad was completely new and a new coach, so to expect them to compete and let alone win in front of 6000 plus home fans is unrealistic . So that comparison falls a bit short.
no i think its great that Montana people support our school in football the griz games are awesome...people around here just kind of make me laugh because they only support them because they win every game it doesn't seem to matter who they are winning against and you have to admit its pathetic that we are playing another division 2 school...We not step up and try 2 pull an App St upset by playing someone who actually matters or move up 2 the WAC because i agree we could win a few games in the WAC but would these so called loyal Montana fans stick around if the griz moved up and went 4-8 or whatever for a few years i don't think they would judging by how the basketball team does...I respect our basketball team a lot more for playing at the top level and if we win the Big Sky tourney we will have 2 play probably one of if not the best teams in America and that excites me more as well as many other of us out of state students who grew up watching top notch competition. Nothing would please me more than to see our Griz pull off an upset for the century. Basically all i'm saying is that i'm tired of hearing kids i go 2 school with mainly just the instate kids tell me that the Griz are better than my hometown Boise State Broncos or that the Griz could pound all of these D-1A teams i mean i am obviously a smart enough sports fan 2 know otherwise but its time for the Griz football program to grow a pair and move up and play with the big boys
Why not follow Boise State's lead they are a former Big Sky team who moved up sucked a couple years got there recruiting on par and went on 2 win a bunch of Bowl games as well as winning one of the greatest college football games ever played...We could have that at the University of Montana...i'd rather shoot for a BCS bowl game than win d1-aa championships because the rest of the nation will respect us not just locals
LOL Montana will never Be as good as Boise! LOL
FairWeather Fans it sounds like
Your random capitalization amazes me.
of course Montana is not as good as Boise but move them up 2 Boise's level and give them a few years to recruit better players and you never know what could happen...Yes i think a lot of Montana football would become fairweather fans if the Griz went 4-8 or 3-9 which is what i would predict 2 be their record at the next level...but whatever i'm done ranting about football this is about our basketball team which just pulled off a huge win against Idaho State so hates off 2 them
yeah my random capitalization even amazes myself...surprisingly i got an A in English 101 hahaha